What is a deathie and are you one? (The Groundswell Project Interview)

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I had the pleasure of interviewing Jessie Williams of The Groundswell Project, based in Australia, a few weeks ago. Jessie shares her poignant and beautiful story that demonstrates her passion to this project, which is working in a similar way to Before I Go Solutions.



Listen in below to find out:

  • What is a deathie and are you one?
  • How death can be a work of art
  • Jessi’es own very poignant story of how she came to this work through the death of her baby Monty
  • Why describing ourselves as ‘fighting cancer’ only perpetuates the battle – and what to do differently
  • Difference between death and dying
  • Can you be dying without suffering?
  • What is suffering?

And discover the wise words from Jessie’s mum.  Just half an hour, there are so many gems in here, so do listen and enjoy!

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  1. Julia Berry on February 28, 2018 at 3:46 pm

    Intersting to hear about Groundswell – what an amazing project.
    A refreshing and informative interview.
    Thank you Jane

    • Jane Duncan Rogers on February 28, 2018 at 4:23 pm

      Thanks Julia, glad you enjoyed it 🙂

  2. Dorothy on February 28, 2018 at 6:23 pm

    I am definitely a wide awake ‘Deathie’. Our leaving is as fascinating as our arriving. In fact I remember often hearing the expression , ‘One in. One out.’ uttered knowingly after either event..when older women were discussing events. Thank you both for reaching out and sharing new developments across the globe. Illuminating developments. Long overdue. ?

    • Jane Duncan Rogers on March 2, 2018 at 9:15 am

      Good to be reminded of the ‘one in, one out’ quote Dorothy, thank you. It’s something that we really don’t want to admit, generally speaking. Appies ot declutteirng too!

  3. Sharon Kent on March 19, 2018 at 9:50 am

    Hello Jane, do you know whether, in the UK, taking a child home who has died is a definite option? I’ve been told by my local hospital it definitely is not but I’m wondering if you have any further information? Having lost two daughters at birth, years ago, looking back on my experiences and listening to Jessie talking about hers, I am touched by what a simple idea this is and am certain that having time at home with my children, however brief, would have facilitated my love and also my letting go (to say nothing of all it would have helped my husband!). As you may remember as a Humanist, I do Naming/Farewell ceremonies sometimes at our local hospital for families who lose a baby and I’d like to discuss this option with the nursing team and midwives but am not really sure where to start! Kind Regards.

    • Jane Duncan Rogers on March 19, 2018 at 10:41 am

      Hi Sharon
      Your local hospital is very definitely wrong! I wonder who they think a baby belongs to? So glad you asked about this, as it is this kind of misinformation that is really not helpful. You will find more information and help on the SANDS website https://www.sands.org.uk/. Let me know how you get on.

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